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Thanks Dave for getting back. I think it really means a great deal to all of us devoted readers that you really do care about our comments and what we write to you.

In the area of wilderness conservation I have started referring to the structure/process as -- the Conservation-Industrial Complex. Like its sibling, the Military-Industrial Complex, it is surrounded by big, opaque, billowing clouds of bullshit.

If you want to get focused on outcomes there, make sure you have on your hazmat suit fully equipped with industrial-strength bullshit filters.

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