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Dave I would like to go record as being who has received and understood your message. I also thought you like to know that next month the pope of climate confusion his holiness "Wild Bill" McKibben with be in Honolulu next month. If coming out here from Vermont is in "Wild Bill's" personal carbon budget, I guess for his holiness the sky's the limit. I must admit to being disgusted but not surprised, to see on the back of the "The Sixth Extinction", the "Mckibben seal of approval". Balancing that out for me was the T.C. Boyle blurb. I think the correct dogma is to refer to a "rogue industry" i.e. the fossil fuel industry. But what can one expect from the Rogue Primate -- http://www.amazon.com/Rogue-Primate-Exploration-Domestication-General/dp/1550135082 -- but rogue action. Well if "Wild Bill" is going to be out here I hope at least he will condemn the massive building boom that is presently occurring in Honolulu. How that is happening some time after, Richard Heinberg came out here to inform us all about the imminent"End of Growth", is anybody's guess.


But Dave, you can tell the world yourself in 2100 that you published this post in 2014. Just ensure you've included it in your program when you download yourself into a Ray© Kurwazy® Robot™ c.2045. Of course, you may have to swallow 300 pills a day to get to 2045. (150 to attain longevity, 150 to stop yourself puking by sharing the same planet as the Kurwazy Bastard.)

Mike Roberts

Yup, you've nailed it on the two "sides". I get frustrated with both, though, of course, there is no way for humans, collectively, to act any differently, so I know I should not get frustrated and just sit calmly with my legs crossed and my hands resting loosely on my knees, thumb touching the middle finger, chanting "OM". Unfortunatley, my damned knee stops me doing that.

I'm also of the opinion that the shit is hitting the fan. With all the science last year telling us the situation is "likely" worse than we thought and the first couple of months seeing pretty weird weather events, a possible El Ninio in the offing, and Arctic sea ice extent tracking near the lower bound of the 2 sigma range, this could be a significant year for climate change effects. Not that it will impress anyone.

The first assumption is false. The second one is ludicrous.

When I see a wonderful summation like this, it brings into laser-like focus the fact that all sides in the discussion are essentially saying the same thing, that any threat to The Growth Assumption is "inconceivable".

And so we shall stumble forth...


Growth is God.

Alexander Ač

Great summary. I am slowly, but seriously, giving up of Human Future. Not because of age, but because of knowledge.


cynthia marvel

I think this winter will be a turning point for the Americans who haven't been paying attention. What happens then I don't know. It could be the issue that brings out the pitchforks and barricades. I think young people have to get mad.

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