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John D

When I read about things like this it makes me quite depressed. Sometimes I wish I were an idealist (sorry Dave) or a religious whacko rather than a realist. Why do 99 percent of the people in this country think that our biggest problem is reigniting growth?

Bill Hicks

@John D - "Why do 99 percent of the people in this country think that our biggest problem is reigniting growth?"

It ought to be fairly obvious: because they have no real world skills, and without their jobs or other steady income stream they are doomed and they know it.


There is pretty much a clause for every book about the collapsing ecology and climate chaos, that is being published by a major publisher, that they always have to tack on some BS about how it can all be saved if we do such and such non intrusive(into everybody's every day lives) activity we can save everything by magic.


The answer to all problems is the last sentence spoken in this video:


Here is Part I of a brilliant and comprehensive description of just how fucked we are, by the talented and indefatigable Cory Morningstar. There are links within to Parts II, III and IV.

http://bit.ly/fV8slf or if that doesn't work, http://thebiggestlieevertold.wordpress.com/?p=262&preview=true


Many people do not believe climate scientists because of the dishonesty (or stupidity) of their spokespersons who claim we can easily solve the problem without any painful lifestyle changes. If you catch someone lying on one issue you tend to discount everything else they say.

Alexander Ač


you should not be too much surprised be KC approach. If one studies whole life one subject (or problem), one always think it HAS TO BE a solvable problem. Why otherwise wasting time with something what is unsolvable?



I have been reading a book called "The Unnatural History of the Sea" which describes the history of destruction of various fisheries and ecosystems. A very gloomy book. Also has a hopey message at the end, but I have the feeling even the author finds in unlikely.

I find coral reefs to be the "rainforests" of the oceans in another way - they are pretty, well known, and remote from most of the rich people concerned about them. What about oyster reefs, cold water coral, and kelp forests? I bet we've lost as many or more of those, or at least fished them into sterility compared to their historic richness. Yet rather than talk about what we've done to our own environment... We worry about coral. Not that coral doesn't deserve our concern, but what about our backyards? Just as tropical rainforest is a convenient thing to think about so you don't notice the forests near you that are being taken down in pieces, so coral reefs serve as a distant sink for our ecological concern.

Dr. C

"Optimism and stupidity are nearly synonymous." - Admiral Hyman Rickover

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