You are not aware of your own anthropocentrism in the same way you are not normally aware of the air you're breathing. Only in extraordinary circumstances where the air is very thin or almost absent would you become aware of the invisible oxygen which keeps you alive. On Earth, in the case of anthropocentrism, there are no analogous extraordinary circumstances at this time. The natural world is thus entirely at our mercy with no exceptions until that inevitable time in the future when ... never mind.
Anyway, anthropocentrism is irreducibly instinctual in the human animal.
There is abundant evidence that we are heavily prone to perceiving and interpreting other components of the world, besides ourselves, in anthropocentric terms. As a result, we may impose complexity on a system that lacks it (or at least lacks the kind of complexity we usually attribute to it). In the case of the social brain hypothesis, we may inadvertently have used primates as a kind of tautological instrument: we have told them what we want them to be in order to validate our own view of who we think we are...
An anthropocentric stance is something from which, to a large degree, we cannot retreat: by definition, neither can we see the world in anything other than human terms nor can we describe or discuss it in anything other than ordinary human language.
Inescapable anthropocentrism necessarily implies that humans can only see the natural world in strictly human terms. In particular, humans can only see the natural world as something to exploit for their own purposes. It can not be any other way, as I discussed in the 2nd Flatland essay. Anthropocentrism underlies all the delusional nonsense humans invent when they discuss the fate of the natural world.
Only in recent times did those few humans who "care about" the natural world, or understand its fundamental importance find a way to make that world visible to humans—they put a price tag on nature (Radiolab, season 13, episode 3). And thus we get observations like this at the 11:00 mark:
I want to say, and this is based on my experience working in developing countries, that when you don't put a value on these [ecosystem] services, basically [those services] don't get counted.
That observation holds true in developed countries too of course. And any "sustainable" practices put in place by pre-industrial humans would only have been enacted to safeguard successful future exploitation.
I would like you to listen to that Radiolab program in the hope that you will experience it in the same way I do. In particular, at no point did the various humans involved manage to take a non-anthropocentric view of the natural world. For example, the host Jad Abumrad keeps referring to the "aesthetic" value of nature, and seems to confuse this with the natural world having intrinsic value. (This is not the same as priceless). But the "aesthetic" value of nature must lie in the mind of the human beholder.
At the end, J.B. McKinnon, who I quoted in the second essay, said this after the 19:45 mark:
Abumrad — Is there another way to think about the value of nature in a way that's not economic and therefore shortsighted and all about us, but also not simply about the aesthetics and the beauty because that can be sort of limiting too. Is there another way?
McKinnon — The best I was able to do in thinking about this was, when it struck me that in a way, all this biological diversity that's out there, all these wonderful and amazing and alien things that other species can do, is like an extension of our own brains. There's so much imagination out there that we simply could not come up with on our own, that we can think of it as a pool of imagination and creativity from which we as humans are able to draw.
And when we draw down on that pool of creativity and imagination, we deeply impoverish ourselves. In a sense we are doing harm to our own ability to think. And to dream.
There you go—inescapable anthropocentrism.
Spot on, Dave, and expressive of the narcissism of this species. The great irony of a species evolving with not only the capacity for but the inclination toward parameterizing and delimiting the universe of which they are a product is, to me at least, nowhere more poignantly expressed than in the euphoric proclamations of science populizers Carl Sagan and Neil DeGrasse Tyson "We are a way for the universe to know itself.'
It still makes me shiver with disgust when I hear it.
Posted by: Robert | 12/27/2016 at 12:23 PM
Excellent post, Dave...
You said, "... at no point did the various humans involved manage to take a non-anthropocentric view of the natural world."
A typical response from a typical "doomer" site: "It is so sad to think that my kids are playing with stuffed toys, and learning about animals that will soon only exist in that form and in pictures."
Yes, it is so sad that it is all about us and the precious children's entertainment.
Posted by: Clancy | 12/27/2016 at 12:35 PM
I think Taoism - as described in the Tao Te Ching - is non-anthropomorphic. However, I doubt Taoism will ever be a mainstream POV.
There's nothing much to worry about. This civilization will crash soon enough and conversations like this will crash right along with it.
I believe humans will survive right along with crows and rats. But the Tower of Babble won't and human organization will return to fragmented tribal forms until such time "good fortune" provides another opportunity to prove they ain't no smarter'n yeast.
Posted by: LJR | 12/27/2016 at 02:54 PM
Absolutely right. I haven't had time to listen to the podcast yet but this is something that frequently comes to mind; it's impossible for us to think in anything other than human terms. It's the same for all species but possibly worse for us since we invented words to think about stuff and, as far as I'm aware, can now only think with those words, at least when trying to string thoughts together.
Posted by: Mike Roberts | 12/27/2016 at 03:47 PM
Still somewhat anthropocentric, as beauty is in the mind of the beholder. But a step away ethically, putting the biotic community at the center.
Posted by: EnonZ | 12/27/2016 at 04:43 PM
To me the issue is not whether we think in "human" terms or not. The issue is whether we can "understand" the world we live in in a "sustainable" manner. It's a modeling problem. Humans have brains that function as "anticipatory systems" (AS) and, as such, are always "looking for an edge". Now we have computers which mediate corporate AS in the service of short term profits and "shareholder value". Humans are simply component parts of these larger systems. Individual humans are pretty much powerless to direct corporate activity in any way that doesn't conform to the above criteria.
The problem is that the self-correcting feedback loops needed to stabilize collective behavior don't exist. Our collective behavior is, in other words, stupid.
And there ain't no cure for stupid.
Posted by: LJR | 12/27/2016 at 04:50 PM
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.
I do not think that they will sing to me.
I have seen them riding seaward on the waves
Combing the white hair of the waves blown back
When the wind blows the water white and black.
We have lingered in the chambers of the sea
By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown
Till human voices wake us, and we drown.
T.S. Eliot
Posted by: LJR | 12/27/2016 at 05:49 PM
Even people who may be able to see intrinsic value in non-human things cannot generally explain it to others in non-human terms. Even the languages we would use to do so are largely based on human perception, being, after all, human languages. Anyone clued in enough to recognize this catch-22 would realize that most people need to be able to frame concepts in human terms in order to process them, and that they will simply tune out as irrelevant anything that does not affect them (as defined by not being easily able to place it in human terms). So, most people can't see it, and those that can can't really talk about it to anybody else anyway. In the end, the only lens that can be used by humans to view a world with humans in it is a human lens. It's literally the only context we have.
Posted by: Brian | 12/27/2016 at 08:41 PM
"For example, the host Jad Abumrad keeps referring to the "aesthetic" value of nature, and seems to confuse this with the natural world having intrinsic value."
Exactly. But two points -
1 - at the risk of changing the subject, every other species has their own "-centrism". Of course, only we post-hominids have the kind of power to rape this planet to death, but there'd be a lot of other species who'd do it given that same power.
2 - nature is a fucking charnel house of pain and devouring. Given that, I often wonder if we're that removed from it as we think we are?
Posted by: Andrew McIntosh | 12/28/2016 at 04:57 AM
I can only sigh and nod in agreement. The last quote from McKinnon left me with my jaw on the floor. Dude's completely clueless.
@Andrew: the key word in your comment is "think". The human species is the only one (to our awareness) that processes its reality within as many cognitive layers as we do. That process creates a heightened "centrism" for us, and it helps to separate us from nature in ways that other species probably don't experience, at least at our level.
All species are selfish, yes, but because of our brains, we actually see the world with different glasses than other species, and we experience and process our reality in ways that don't exist to other species. Dave's Flatland series is an examination of these abilities. We like to believe our brain "power" makes us better than other species, but this isn't clear at all when trying to look at it from a more objective perspective. It is pretty clear that it does make us more powerful (in the metric of an arms race) than many other species.
The irony being that these processes are an evolutionary offshoot created by nature. In a real way, we aren't removed from nature at all. But, we "think" we are.
Posted by: Jim | 12/28/2016 at 11:07 AM