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Dave - You've made my day and year. Thanks for providing this corroboration for my wholly unscientific gut feeling that no matter what we think we are doing to the planet, it's not the planet that's fucked - it's "us". (Exactly when is anyone's guess.) Of course, George Carlin already told us this so succinctly, but now Bao & Co have put rational science behind it.

On this basis, hysterical doomers can stop their a-ranting and a-bleating about the forthcoming end of all life. We Homo egomaniacs are but a small and fortunately dispensable fraction of the swirling mass of animated genes on Earth.

Julian Bond

"humans can not wreck the planet, or utterly destroy its biosphere". It's a bit unfashionable now but the cold war version of this would be, "What? Not even with a MAD nuclear war?" I guess even with that and the attendant high levels of actinide radioactivity, life would just react by using a higher mutation rate to pull itself out of the mire by it's bootstraps faster.


The Planet is Fine. The People are Fucked. — George Carlin http://youtu.be/NL8HP1WzbDk


At least the dinosaurs could blame the asteroid. We screwed ourselves.

Mike Roberts

Mmm, Carlin uses weird logic - humans are doing enough damage without worrying about saving the planet. He got the fact that humans are doing enough damage right but then seems to want humans to ... well ... not do anything about the damage they're (we're) doing.


@ Mike

He's a fucking comedian bro ...


Carlin realises that humans can no more change their characteristics than they can destroy this planet.

I've decided to sit back and enjoy the time I've got left and the challenges that it will bring and just see what happens to us.

After all, life probably survived a trip through deep space on the back of a comet to get here. It's tougher than we give it credit for.


It's probably worth considering that we will undoubtedly take a whole lot of other life forms with us when we go. In fact, it seems entirely likely, given human nature and our current trajectory, that whatever "life composition" exists after humans may very well be similar to that that existed immediately after the glaciation event Dave describes here... that is, very small, very simple, but very numerous.

Still, I do find it mildly comforting to get some confirmation that as much as we may fuck it up, we will not be able to completely destroy the planet's ability to host some form of life. On the other hand, considering the implications, it's a pretty small comfort.

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