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Ken Barrows

If men and women don't think culture is a bigger problem than politics, then they want to keep their lifestyle.


I agree that it is the economy, or at least what is percieved to be the economy... Even if we could know with certainty that we could live decent lives with renewables + density + electric transit, the idea is in conflict with the "American Dream". Considering that we can't even be sure that it will work out even if we go all in for tranformation, it's a bet people are not willing to take.

I can't say McKibben is totally wrong; the fossil fuel industries are some of the most powerful, not just because of money but also because they control the energy supply. But considering they were already widely disliked and distrusted not so long ago, and they haven't really pushed their propaganda any harder since, the missing factor is that people want to believe them now.

Alternatives to our current lifestyle are literally unspeakable.

Alexander Ač

Hi Dave,

and another blow to exponential ecologists, DESERTEC seems to be finished (Nature magazine from today): http://www.nature.com/news/sahara-solar-plan-loses-its-shine-1.11684?WT.ec_id=NATURE-20121101



Climate change is just a hoax perpetrated by the liberal anti-human crowd to control us. It is not only a lie, it is CRIMINAL. Forbes (totally legit) tells us so:

Seriously, you can't make this stuff up.


"What kind of civilisation can change the climate of an entire planet – as far as it knows, the only planet in existence which sustains life – and yet find the evidence of this so uninteresting that it relegates it, in its hierarchy of ‘news’, below the latest murder, the inevitable re-election of one of its increasingly meaningless political figureheads and a lot of people running around tracks for a week in a big aerodrome?

"What kind of civilisation can tip the web of life into a ‘death spiral’ and then spend its time arguing about whether or not this is a good thing? What kind of civilisation can embed something it calls ‘economic growth’ so deeply into its sense of self-worth and meaning that when it dimly becomes aware that this growth is turning the Earth itself upside down, it responds with calls for more of it? What kind of civilisation arrives at a point of no return, and then insists that the only ‘pragmatic‘ response is not to change the way it operates but to remake nature itself, from the genetic level upwards, in its own image? Anything rather than change. Anything rather than face the impossibility of change. Anything rather than look down."


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