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08/13/2012

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notdavenotcohen

great post by Dave as usual - that presentation indeed is very long and not much new material beyond generalities of declining West and acsending East

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Ben

Moynihan wants "us" to consider applying science and engineering to social problems without "economic" concerns, in order to move from complexity (resource acquisition, production, and consumption) towards simplicity (efficient use of materials, less babies, et cetera). That ain't gonna happen Jack, and we all know why, especially Mr. Moynihan. However, he's a prominent individual, and optimism is de rigueur among his class.

*pulls out big bottle of Ciroc & chugs after watching The Singularity Is Near trailer*

Wanooski

Those singularity people are total freaks. And they're practically genocidal, ever gotten into conversation with one and ask what about those that don't want/can't afford to be a part of it? They basically write them off as luddites that will just be left to die essentially. And they all have utter contempt for ecological issues.

Nat

Here's my response to the singularity people: I want to breathe fresh air, drink clean water, eat unadulterated food, enjoy being a part of nature, grow old and die. Deal with it.

Gretchen

I read Kurzweil's book, The Singularity is Near, after a coworker recommended it to me. He loved the ideas presented in the book, especially the biotech ones having to do with living forever as a part machine/mind controlled entity.
I came away from that book shuddering, sure that a nightmarish scifi future is now for real in store for us, or rather what is left of us after the Great Depopulation.
It doesn't surprise me that education will be a tool used to spread ideas. Bill Gates is the big money behind the current faked demise of American education. No need for teachers, smaller class sizes, books and materials etc. anymore, just pack the kids in, plug them into a screen and "educate" them. They are already calling teachers "facilitators".

Ken Barrows

I read Kurzweil's book, too. And I just finished "Physics of the Future" by Michio Kaku. He seems to have written the book recently but says commodity prices have generally fallen for the last 150 years. Of course, like Kurzweil, there's no net energy analysis on all these elaborate schemes. Kaku, though, seems to admit, that fusion better work or his utopia isn't happening.

Ben

This is pretty interesting Dave:

http://www.generationaldynamics.com/cgi-bin/D.PL?d=ww2010.book2.next

The link is about "Singularity". The section dealing with algorithms is pretty damn interesting.

Brett

Have we invented new things with modern technology or simply made them either cheaper and/or smaller? My phone has a dual core CPU, a camera, 16GB SD card, etc...

But other than more memory, and more pixels, and more transistors for less money, what have we invented that is NEW? Nano technology and all this crazy talk about somehow outsmarting billions of years of biology is made believable to most people that watch that clip because what? CGI?

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