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08/26/2012

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T E Cho

Dave, your website is hard to find in the ocean of websites out there. I'd probably not have found it if it weren't directly recommended by a friend. You might find that encouraging. Actually I'm curious how the others happened upon it.

Wanooski

Awww, thanks Dave. You have a lovely Sunday.

gretchen

I came upon DOTE while doing searches for decay/decline of empires in world history. The way they've set up our world has always seemed wrong and has worried me from childhood, especially in regards to Nature. Glad to find others that care and can explain the mumbo jumbo.

Ken Barrows

You can lead a fool to issues, but you cannot make him think. Since you bring up the issues, there is nothing else you can do. You can be at peace with yourself.

Ben

I found DOTE in late 2011 (December if I'm not mistaken) at the recommendation of a very close friend who is no longer with me. Your blog keeps me sane because you express ideas and observations that I have intuited, but have not been able to articulate. Thank you Dave.

R. Buckminster Fuller coined the phrase Space Ship Earth to describe how interconnected everyone and everything is on Earth. He posited that humanity would eventually run into a brick wall, a test of sorts, that would determine whether or not we have a future as stewards of Space Ship Earth. Fuller died on July 1, 1983 (aged 87) - I'm sure that if he were alive today, he would look around at the convergence of seemingly disparate human fuck ups, accumulating one after another, and determine that we have no future.

The Practician

Dave, I would recommend your website to anyone I thought could handle facing the hopelessness of our situation without becoming miserably depressed, but you know as well as I do that those people are few and far between. Personally, I think I only know one other person (in person) who, when pushed on the serious issues, will not fall back on empty platitudes such as "we can change the world" or some equally meaningless humanist drivel.

Great sunday post though, made me feel less guilty about my own superiority complex.

IvyMike

I'm convinced the only hope for life on earth—and survival of the human species—is near term global thermonuclear war.

He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Shiva.

Eugene

Most people can't read the writing on the wall until their backs are up against it. I am confidant some of us will survive but I have little hope that the world will continue as it has over the past 50 years or so. My guess is that the survivors will be cooperatively resilient in tough times, be deficient in those character traits (extreme materialistic self centeredness, thievery and lust for power) that got us into this mess and will work with nature instead of against it.

Gallifrey

I have lurked here for a long time without ever commenting, fall 2010 if I recall correctly. The irony of my situation is that I learned the score (thanks to you and a handful of others) at exactly that point when I was fully enmeshed and entangled in the suite of social traps and responsibilities that characterize the American Sleepwalker (marriage, job, house, child). Now I don't have anyone to truly talk to in the physical world, because everyone I know is a Rabbit-Out-Of-The-Hatter who thinks that policy X or politician Y will make things better, when precedent indicates otherwise. So thanks for the straight dope, Dave. By the way, I printed out your 2nd Lesson of Human Nature from your post Learning from the Aquacalypse and taped it next to my monitor at work. It's a good daily reminder that we are who we are.

Mike Roberts

I can't think of a single person that would seriously consider it, if I recommended your site, Dave. That is the measure of the mess we're in. Almost everyone believes that things will return to "normal" eventually and that they can continue to rape the planet and destroy their children's futures without consequence.

For some people, the bits of reality start to add up and eventually flick a switch somewhere. Then they'll find their own way here, as I did. It's a shame we're not a community but I take what comforts I can from knowing that there is the odd rare person out there who is aware of what's going on.

Chris

I don't remember how I found DOTE, but hardly a day goes by that I do not check in and read your posts, Dave. I guess I keep coming back because it is, as you said, a No Bullshit Zone. I appreciate that, and thank you for keeping it that way without fail.

raintonite

"But you know we're only renting, and we have an obligation to leave the place in at least as good a shape as we found it in."

For some reason I find this one of the most compelling sentences I've read this year. Thanks.

Maybe it has impact because it frames our dilemna in language we can all understand these days - the language of the market place. Yet, its meaning is certainly not in keeping with current financial ideology, but rather subverts the language of the ideology.

Anyway, too much analysis on my part.

Tony

Thanks Dave. I look on as a fellow-traveller from down-under knowing we will follow the US down the same road.

Alexander Ač

Greetings from depressed Europe (Slovakia) too! My last article is about dissapearing arctic ice and all the possible shit effects on food production. Shit happens almost everywhere, everytime you look...

cheers,

Alex

T E CHo

@Dave,@raintonite,

"But you know we're only renting, and we have an obligation to leave the place in at least as good a shape as we found it in."

Yes, I needed the reiteration, that is the essence of things, framed for our contemporaries in a way they might understand, on some level, maybe some of them, eventually (?) Maybe not.

eclecticskeptic

I've been reading this site for maybe three years now, I'm an old duck, been around the block a few times... stockbroker, restaurant owner, homebuilder, real estate agent... lotta stuff. No particular talents, just trying to keep my head above water for the most part. Reading Taleb's "Fooled By Randomness" came like the proverbial slap upside the head. Near as I can tell, almost everybody is subject to linear thinking. That is, they believe that what happened yesterday is probably going to happen today. And tomorrow. And the next day.
Well, there's an aphorism that keeps coming back to me. "If it can't happen, it won't happen. If (for example) Greece can't pay its debts, they wont. If health care can't double every 9 years,it wont. If we can't "defeat" those brown folks in Afghanistan, we wont.
If we can't support 7 or 10 billion people on this earth, we wont. I don't know what will happen, I only know that if it can't, it wont.

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