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07/29/2012

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Wanooski

On 14 I'd change normal to acceptable. They think it is acceptable to be referred to as consumers.

Dave Cohen

Re: #14

Done!

-- Dave

Don Levit

A terrific book on this important subject is "The Sane Society," by Erich Fromm.
Of course, this was written, I believe, in the 1950s, with a lot of relevance for today.
Remember the bestseller in the 1970s: "I'm OK, You're OK?"
After reading Fromm's book, I got the impression he felt "I'm OK, You're Screwed Up."
Don Levit

red admiral

unfortunately spot on. Morris Berman's books are also excellent and contemporary.

John Andersen

Dave,

I know many, many Americans who don't think any of those things, but for reasons of self preservation, don't speak out. Their actions, however, indicate they are not mindless idiots.

I'm thinking of people who grow their own food, read deeply, live car-lite, or car-free, keep physically fit, avoid junk food, avoid most television programming, repair their homes, cars, appliances, etc.

You will say they are in the minority. I would say that there are more people like that than you appear to acknowledge.

Not that I disagree with the content of what you write in this blog post I totally agree, and am a huge George Carlin fan also

I just feel it's necessary to make it clear there are many Americans who aren't morons. From my perspective, the majority of smart ones appear to be working class, many immigrants, people of color, who simply go about their daily business and get the job done.

Ben

Berman came to mind specifically "Americas hustler culture" - anyway, this was a great post Dave! I think Carlin once said something to the effect when you are born you get a ticket to the freak show, when your born in America you get a front row seat.

John Andersen

as an addendum to my post:

I think many wise Americans are just seeking a "Quiet Life":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu2zEYXp41Y&feature=related

Dave Cohen

Re: there are more [sane] people like that than you appear to acknowledge

I don't know. How many did I appear to acknowledge?

I'm not going to qualify everything I say -- that gets tedious -- to recognize less than 1% of the population. 1% is about 3 million people (of the total).

About 150 million people will vote in the presidential election. Most of the others are too depressed, lazy or apathetic.

How many people -- in total -- participated in an Occupy Wall Street rally or occupation? Considerably less than 3 million.

-- Dave

Charlie Thornton

A person could go a little bit further and say the list could have at least something to do with the recent "event" in Colorado. Myself, I'm really surprised it doesn't happen more often. Especially in a country that sees #12 as the pinnacle of human achievement.

Anywhere But Here Is Better

Superb summation of crazy is as crazy does, Dave.

I would be over the moon (as they say in these parts) if you did get 'picked up' by the media hologram - and rocked the boat with Force 12 waves from inside the system.

Then we might see just how many non-moronic people come out of the shadows to which John Andersen alludes - when they demonstrate en masse for your release from custody.

Wheelerlucas

Mr Andersen I presume is a liberal on race, class and immigration and so he feels he has the right to stereotype exactly who a smart America is. I am going to have to respectively disagree with his characterization. I live in Honolulu. In Honlulu we have a large working-class, immigrates are numerous and the majority are people of color. It has been my experience that all three categories are unrepresented among those doing the smart thing. While I am sure that most "go about their daily business" and do their jobs {what ever they may be} they are simply not interested in becoming educated about the human condition.
Case in point young Mr. Bruno Mars who wrote a couple of years ago today's anthem to American Avariciousness "I Wanna Be a Billionaire": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jMu110fz6Q. Bruno is typical of the mind set of our young island locals. You would think given how vulnerable, we on the most isolated island chain in the world, are to the unforeseen that we would all want to be "a little smarter than the average bear". Hardly -- we here in Honolulu prove Dave right in spades.

John Andersen

Collectively, Americans are pretty stupid. Individually, there is endless evidence of wisdom and intelligence.

I think it's important to not lose sight of this fact.

That's all I'm trying to say.

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