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06/13/2012

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stu

Dave- keep telling it like you see it. This is an invaluable service as we know you are not corrupted by money, power, etc.

We know that, on occasion, we need to filter out some excess doomerism when reading your stuff. But not a problem.

Dave Cohen

Re: excess doomerism

I will admit that my ever-increasing, generalized disgust with the Human Condition sometimes gets the better of me, although I am hard-pressed to think of any examples of excess doomerism right now.

Perhaps you or somebody else could point out some cases where I am likely wrong about the human future.

Or perhaps it's just my bad attitude, which I freely admit to.

-- Dave

Fran Joseph

There are positive, encouraging signs. Creative, progressive visions, plans, projects. Can they overcome the meta-terrible? I don't see how. But I'm happy to join forces with them. I need to. Locally based, small scale optimism. I appreciate your blog.

Anywhere But Here Is Better

Dave - may I please adjust the first comment on behalf of my boss Stu. He had a couple of extra tots for breakfast and he just called me up and ask me to send you the following correction:

"Keep telling it like you see it. This is an invaluable service as we know you are not corrupted by money, power, etc.

We are glad to know that, on no occasion do we ever need to filter out any excess doomerism when reading your stuff. The truth is not a problem."

Well, that's it. I will now hide under the bedclothes in case Stu is sending a drone my way.

PS - Stu, we love ya!

Dave Cohen

Re: my attitude

As I noted above, my attitude is bad. Very bad indeed.

For example, take household median net worth. It only dropped 38.8% in the years 2007-2010.

I mean, let's look at this without excessive doomerism. It could have dropped 45, 50, or even 60% in that same period. Household wealth is back to where it was in 1992, or 1989, depending on how you calculate it. It could be back to where it was in 1985, or 1977 or 1973.

And I also said this is likely to be as good as it's going to get. Now, that's way over the top right there.

So you can readily see just how bad my attitude is.

-- Dave

Jim Bethel

As Harry Truman used to say, "People think that I give them Hell. I don't give them Hell, I just tell them the truth and they think it is Hell". Keep up the good work, Dave. More truth. Your readership decline just proves again that no good deed goes unpunished.

NoHype

Whenever I find myself starting on that downward spiral of crippling despair, I remind myself of the following and all is well again in my world:

Mother Nature will not be mocked. She casts a cold eye on our wailing supplications as we harvest what we sowed so many springs ago. She laughs to hysteria as she beholds the obese and tottering uberbeasts (overlords) rushing hither and thither furiously waving their fat little hands at the ends of their fat little arms. As she rears back to shake humanity loose from our complacent suckling, engorged from drinking six million years of sunlight in six hundred, it behooves us (the 17 of 2000) to remember that love can be tough. Even from an indulgent mother who refuses to be mocked.

This is when I indulge myself in a little back-to-the-future schadenfreude, and ... ahhhhh ... feel oh-so-much-better.

james

You're doing just great, Dave. No-one talks the truth like you do.
Thank you.

spynetkilla

For readers who need it diluted, try reading it in an soothing NPR Kindergarten teacher "time for your milk and cookies" voice. They make everything sound so smart and cool! And calm, so calm.

Keep it real. I don't come here for candy-coated bullshit. I have to say though, every time I see the "sarcastic face" emoticon, I hear a little rim-shot sound. "Japan is fine (badumbump!)".

What's found here is based on the same data available to everyone, yet with a much different interpretation than is found in the mainstream. The same information leads to a very different and (generally correct imo)conclusion.

I can accept my own mortality, and the likely upcoming end of our race, but it's frustrating that we are so stupid. Wisdom has always been around but largely ignored. And as a few people analyze recent events and we discover more about psychology, etc., it's clear that those who seek money and power for their own sake are dangerous to the rest of us.

Science has gone out the window. One's stand on Global Warming can be inferred by one's party affiliation. In order to pull out of this dive it would require a change of consciousness on a level that does not seem possible.

I have come to many of the same conclusions on my own. Dave articulates them much better than I could, and I myself don't have the inclination to do it.

eugene12

I don't see this site as doomer at all. It's a welcome voice in the land of irrational optimism. Personally, I'll take reality any time. I've spent enough of my life working hard to avoid it.

Dave Cohen

@Eugene

Re: I don't see this site as doomer at all

Good for you! You have completely gotten the point that so many clueless people have missed.

best,

-- Dave

John Andersen

Irrational optimism of the common people is what keeps the magistrates in control.

Not a good thing in my book.

Raintonite

Dave, have you considered that the number of declining hits may be due to other factors as well?

Many people can no longer afford internet connections. I went to the local library a few days ago to research some info on plants. It was the first time I visited the reference room where 10 computers are set up for the internet. They were all occupied and when I spoke to librarian she said user traffic, limited to 1 hour a day per member, was through the roof. In 2008, you wouldn't have found a soul in the same room.

Similarly, many of the lumpen middle classes are so fatigued by their efforts to swim against the rip-tides of our economies that they just vegitate these days. They're tuning out. They can't cope. They're drained as they circle the drain. (Some psychopath stole the plug.)

They don't want to know. They know deep down this party is over. Most aren't willing to confront the fact. They're frantically searching for even the most feeble of parties to join, but they'll never realise they haven't been invited to the party. They are the paid staff. They mistook their servant garb for tuxedos and ball gowns.

Their only response, so far, is to take some meagre comfort from those worse off than themselves. They find virtue in their roles as servants. They are hard workers. The party givers will recognise this and save them.

Yeah, and the gas I individually produce is enough to reverse peak oil.

When danger arrives you either respond by fight, flight or freeze.

Doom, doomed or doomerism is when you freeze.

For the suped-up simian the ice age has arrived.

Anywhere But Here Is Better

@Spynetkilla re. I can accept my own mortality.

Agree. It astonishes me how free I feel now that I have badumbumped any fear of dying. We've always known we can only die once, yet people seem to spend so much time worried about death that they forget to live. Now that it's utterly clear that the ruling elite is hastening the death of our species en masse, I remain as calm as that kindergarten teacher's siren voice.

WTF, I think the Facebook preeners call it. Whether I go tomorrow or years from now, I care only to keep listening to and learning from sapience, of the type presented by Dave and a very few others I've encountered.

I've said it before, but watch the movie Dark Star if you get a chance. It's shown me that The End's gonna be accompanied by a universe-shaking belly laugh. Now that would be a fitting epitaph for Homo sapiens falsehopus.

Mike Roberts

John Michael Greer has a good post this week with several links to idiotic thinking by humans (in America). Some would have made my jaw drop several years ago, but Dave's blog has hit home - these things don't surprise me at all, now.

As a taster, there is this link: N.C. Senate approves law that challenges sea-level science which includes this line: "The practical result of the legislation would be that for the purposes of coastal development, local governments could only assume that the sea level will rise 8 inches by 2100, as opposed to the 39 inches predicted by a science panel."

stu

Just a note-

I did not intend to label Dave's stuff as doomerism. He is right on the money most of the time.

Oh- and no drones to my fellow commenters- unless you are uncivil like my evil rightwing Catholic brother-in-law who has just been accepted for SSI Disability after spending his whole life decrying BIG Government as a vicious social conservative. Then again its pretty standard for the tough conservatives to grab for the gubbermint welfare money whenever they can get a hold of it.

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