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05/08/2012

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Ben

There isn't a solution to this.

John Andersen

That's right, there is no solution. There are only intelligent ways of coping and adjusting. Those include going car-lite or car-free, growing more of our food, repairing things, building resilient local neighborhoods, forming food co-ops, replacing electronic entertainment with homemade entertainment, etc.

william sorlien

Absolutely there is fraud in the SSDI numbers. I regularly am in contact with a "marginalized" demographic; i.e., people on the dole. I've seen entire apartment complexes here in St. Paul full of recipients. Interesting to note, many reveal collecting a variety of benefits in multiple states. Extrapolate those numbers, and the result is astounding.

Anywhere But Here Is Better

The human propensity to apply sly tactics when confronted by difficulty is evidenced here.

There's always an attack on people claiming disability benefits "unfairly" when times are tough, as if these people are the cause of the tough times. This "fraud" is no worse than the obvious fraud being perpetrated by the government in massaging the unemployment figures for political purposes, and the very real fraud being carried out daily by the banking and investment community. This latter fraud is the root cause of the current slump in job availability. Banks are not backing job-creating small businesses with sufficient lending, but only shuffling their decks on the stock and currency markets in the pursuit of hyper personal bonuses, which is funny money par excellence.

We humans are cheats, however you look at it. Those at the top of the pile cheat to stay on top, and the rest of us cheat any way we can to survive. It's the law of the jungle (survival of the fittest --- yawn) and nothing will change our nature at the present time.

We can continue to complain, but the only hope is some evolutionary jump that brings us into more sapient conduct, as opposed to grab-all-you-can-for-yourself mindlessness that is par for the course in 2012.

sharonsj

So, William, if you have evidence of fraud, why aren't you turning in those people?

Using cases of fraud to demonize the people who really need help is a typical Republican tack. Meanwhile, the folks I know who get Social Security and Disability really need it.

John D

One group missing I believe from the data is all the recent unemployeed high school and college graduates. I don't believe they can be counted as 'looking for work' until they've lost a job, collected unemployment, and reported with list of employers they've contacted to the unemployment agency.

Ben

@ John Andersen

I don't think there is going to be much coping going on.

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