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01/27/2012

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pamela

Ok, this was a brilliant post!
thanks for writing it and posting it.
I miss Joe too.

Paul

The Dalai Lama teaches us to have compassion for and pity our enemies.
How many of us are going to be able to do that?

Chris

The prophet inspires today, as he does from time to time. Thanks, Dave.

I miss Joe Bageant.

Paul

If I find that compassion for the bankers is too difficult to achieve then I intend to/have done the following:

Get out of debt.
Grow my own food.
Stop voting.
Use cash only.
Learn new skills - sewing, carpentry, first aid, bicycle repair.
Get fitter.
Eat healthy food only.
Fix broken things.
Build relationships within my community.
Read more.
Learn to play the harmonica.

And learn to be happy without stuff.


xraymike79

First of all, one must find the truth through all the sticky layers and tangled webs of corporate spin and propaganda. Without that, then you are simply stuck in the Delusional Hologram that Bageant so brilliantly described. Without the raw truth, then whose reality are we really living in, but the one created for us by the false self-serving agenda of others. I think that's one of the main purposes of DOTE. And to do that we have to pull some pretty gruesome things out of this country's closet, like how militarism is as American as apple pie (along with the whitewashing and revisionist history that follows):

The World War on Democracy

"America is now a land of epidemic poverty and barbaric prisons: the consequence of a "market" extremism which, under Obama, has prompted the transfer of $14 trillion in public money to criminal enterprises in Wall Street. The victims are mostly young jobless, homeless, incarcerated African-Americans, betrayed by the first black president. The historic corollary of a perpetual war state, this is not fascism, not yet, but neither is it democracy in any recognisable form, regardless of the placebo politics that will consume the news until November. The presidential campaign, says the Washington Post, will "feature a clash of philosophies rooted in distinctly different views of the economy". This is patently false. The circumscribed task of journalism on both sides of the Atlantic is to create the pretence of political choice where there is none."

bernard

One of the reasons that I get out of bed each day is to read your post. Thanks for Bageant refresher . I discovered him just before he died.

sharonsj

Great stuff and quite depressing. I have a form of tinnitus and leave the TV on for hours, along with talk radio. However, I discount everything I hear and get my news from a huge list of internet sites that are centrist or progressive.

I cannot listen to conservatives or Republicans any more without wanting to put my foot through the TV or throw the radio out the window. I've kept a list of lies (verified by actual facts and data) and note that not a single commentator ever calls these liars to task. It is the main reason why the average citizen is just so dumb.

To the right-wingers out there: sorry, but your major spokespeople are crazy. Fox News says that there's never been a single case of mad cow disease in the U.S. but there have been many, along with mad deer disease. Limbaugh says the summer heat wave doesn't exist and no temperature records were broken when on the same day of his claim there are dozens of headlines saying that 55 separate heat records were broken. I could go on and on, but the really depressing part for me is that the conservatives out there refuse to listen to facts.

We still headed down the tubes, there is no recovery, and nothing will change without serious reform of campaign laws...and maybe booting out some of the guys on the Supreme Court who make up their own laws. Where the hell are the conservatives who are always screaming about activist judges now?

Scott

Never heard of Joe until today. What a shame he's gone now. =(

I find it amusing that a reader would say "it's all Dave, all the time." Funny. I had a (now former) friend who's a retired cop and Faux News/Glenn Beck junky flip out when I posted an anti-Republican and anti-war remarks on my own facebook page (which I use as a sort of poor man's blog). He just went positively _nuts_, said I had my "head up my ass," called me dishonet and a liar, lectured me on how "great" America is, et cetera, and demanded "an apology."

I concluded that, unbeknownst to me, he had an "authoritarian follower" type of personality, laughed it off, and deleted him. Welcome to the fascist-y world that is 21st Century AmeriKa.

Reflecting on Joe's remarks and yours, I am torn. I often thinking of leaving the US Empire and am doing my homework on that, making some preliminary plans and asking a lot of questions. I will have citizenship in two countries, soon.

But it's hard to leave, change is hard. I served 8 years in the US military and love this country. And, if I leave, it will be permanent, I'm sure. Things won't get better here in my lifetime, I'm sure.

Until then, to stay happy I...

Try to treasure every second with my wife, and be sweet to her
Love and care for my family as much as I can
Stay in touch with friends and other loved ones, spend time
Do a good job at work
Keep busy in the garden, planting, designing & changing things there
Buy some more silver coins or some more ammunition if I have any extra, uneeded money available...

Take care, Dave, and thanks for this blog.


Wanooski

Dave, I was wondering if you would be up to the task of eviscerating Newt's ridiculous moonbase nonsense in the coming days, I've really been waiting for someone to call that bullshit, but as of yet, nothing really seems to have surfaced. Please and maybe thank you.

And Joe Bageant really was an incredibly perceptive person, it really is too bad he didn't get to reach more people.

Dave Cohen

You got it, Wanooski.

Happy to oblige.

-- Dave

Honesty

Excellent blog entry, and excellent observations by Joe Bageant. My friends look at me as if I'm an escapee from a mental asylum whenever I try to discuss the topic this post deals with. They would rather argue about who is the better player between LeBron and Kobe.

Wanooski

Thanks a billion Dave, I look forward to it.

Unbound

Richard Heinberg, in his foreword to Fleeing Vesuvius, makes reference to PPA's:

"The authors have applied themselves to an analysis of the most important and fateful economic transition in human history. They are among the People who are Paying Attention (PPA)—an almost completely unorganized demographic consisting of individuals who have the privilege to devote a substantial amount of time to following world political, economic, and environmental news, but who are not blinded by any fixed religious or political ideology. PPA probably number globally no more than a few million, and (if I may speak for them) have generally come to the conclusion that the world is facing a triple crisis:
 
A. The depletion of important resources including fossil fuels and minerals;
B. The proliferation of environmental impacts, principally climate change arising from both the extraction and use of resources (including the burning of fossil fuels)—leading to snowballing costs from both these impacts themselves and from efforts to avert them; and
C. Financial disruptions due to the inability of our existing monetary, banking, and investment systems to adjust to both resource scarcity and soaring environmental costs—and their inability (in the context of a shrinking economy) to service the enormous piles of government and private debt that have been generated over the past couple of decades."

I've shared this excerpt because Joe Bageant was a member of the PPA club, as was George Carlin and Bill Hicks; Dave, Nicole Foss and Heinberg too are members in good standing -- as are a hand-full of others I failed to mention.

As Heinberg pointed out, PPA's are negligible in numbers and their message remains relegated to the margins -- so a hat tip is in order to Dave for continuing to honor the voices of a Joe Bageant and George Carlin in his blog -- the need to carry the PPA tradition forward is imperative.

Here are some noteworthy Bageant quotes, enjoy!:

The four conerstones of the American political psyche are 1) emotion substituted for thought, 2) fear, 3) ignorance and 4) propaganda."

“(T)he big money is constitutionally protected. Our Constitution is first and foremost a property document protecting their money. In actual practice, our constitutional civil liberties, inspiring as they are in concept to people around the world, are mainly side action to make the institutionalization of the owning class more palatable. You can argue that may not have been the intent of the slave owning, rent collecting, upper class founding fathers. But you would be full of shit.”

“Corporatization of media has reduced our once-thriving American dialogue to a warm puddle of commercial piss.”

“The combination of our poorly educated workforce, and ruthless demagogic oligarchy are not a nationwide problem: they are a national tragedy. It’s one that’s getting worse and is not likely ever to be fixed. The Empire is collapsing inward upon its working base. The oligarchs have skipped town with the national treasury; many have multiple homes in other countries. The inherent natural resources upon which America was initially built by laboring men and women have been squandered. ... When empires die, they die broke.”

Type Joe Bageant into the Youtube search field for some poignant JB interviews.

CB

Yes I agree Joe Bageant was a hell of a writer and observer of human behavior. The comments qoute "The big money is constitutionally protected .... is classic.
As to why get up in the morning - mostly just the simple curiosity to see what happens next. Even if tomorrow is likely to be worse than today we are still curious to find out the details.

Truman Sleeps has a nice arc.
Do you ever post any of your original music?
I appreciate your point of view on this blog - don't always agree but it makes me think.

Jay

Nice writing Dave. First time comment from a regular reader & fellow burgh east-ender.

Ian

Matthew, have you read Jean Luc Nancy: Being suagilnr Plural?Also want to say, If you decide to come to London (UK), you have a home to stay. Just contact me.

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