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01/29/2012

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DaShui

Last week I went to Bimini. On the wall of the marina there were some old photos from the 1950's when there were so many bluefin tuna that small boats would herd them and drive them up on the reef.

Chris

Passenger pigeons of the sea.

Brian M

Asked what he would leave his son, he shrugged: “He’ll have to find something else.”

But he won't stop, will he? Nope, even if our kids futures are at stake, we WILL NOT STOP. Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke. Why should we be surprised (if, in fact, anybody is surprised by this attitude)? After all, we are basically just like all other animals on the planet. We deal with the here and now and our offspring deal with the future when it arrives. And, frankly, that would have been fine had we not figured out how to steal from the future on such an incredibly grand scale.

No one had any idea of limits. Hell, the subject never even came up.

We are yeast with money, guns and energy.

Wanooski

Despair, is really the only word that can can describe this. The fact that we will never know the world of natural abundance that once existed, the world that has been torn away. Biodiversity we will never see. So many incredible creatures, things that defied the imagination, that once shared the world with us that we will never see with our own eyes.
Following the despair is rage, even fury, that such things could be allowed to be destroyed and driven out of the world, that other people could be so callous and cruel and shortsighted makes the reasonable and cautious man or woman a fount of rage, but it is a rage that can go nowhere, that can do nothing. The callous and the cruel have the protection of the law, laws that they write and their lackeys make part of the order they prize so much.
The forests are mostly gone, less than 10% remain in anything that could be called a healthy state, the grasslands and plains are likewise gone, turned into cropland and blacktop, and soon the oceans will be little more than a toxic garbage stew, what was home to the most amazing creatures will be lifeless and dead.
How soon 'til we will have no choice but to follow those that we condemned to the abyss?

irongamer

If you eat seafood you may be interested in a sustainable guide. We used similar guides for a global resource crisis class. Each student took a guide to a store and basically quizzed the poor person behind the counter about each of their products. I visited Market of Choice. The individual was quite knowledgeable about most products. They did have a few products that were from collapsing fisheries and a few that they were not sure of the source.

http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/cr/cr_seafoodwatch/download.aspx
http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/cr/SeafoodWatch/web/sfw_iPhone.aspx

Of course the issue of over population and over exploitation of resources by market driven commerce crush the idea of sustainability. You can a least make some informed choices at the store, if you wish.

Dave Cohen

@Brian M, who wrote

After all, we are basically just like all other animals on the planet. We deal with the here and now and our offspring deal with the future when it arrives. And, frankly, that would have been fine had we not figured out how to steal from the future on such an incredibly grand scale

Well said!

-- Dave

Honesty

Unbelievable, simply unbelievable. If you're (anyone, not Dave) interested in a general overview of where we're heading as a species I recommend heading over to this website: http://www.paulchefurka.ca/50000_Foot_View.html

Here is an excerpt from essay: "We are now well into a global crisis that may mark the end of this cycle of human civilization. In this note I present a summary of what’s going on as far as I can tell, as well as a scenario for how things might develop over the next 75 years or so."

Sigh. Today I was taking care of my cousins, one age 4, the other age 7, and they were singing the Oscar Mayer Wiener song. Now, I didn't pay it any mind this morning, but after reading through this blog entry it hit me: little kids in the United States sing songs about food ... FOOD! think about that ...

(experiencing internet problems, I apologize if there are multiple posts by me.)

jlg4880

I'm still astonished the human species isn't extinct [yet], considering how stupid and short-sighted we've proven to be. I'm still wondering when there's gonna be a pandemic to get the scourge of humanity down to manageable numbers...

xraymike79

jlg4880 said: I'm still wondering when there's gonna be a pandemic to get the scourge of humanity down to manageable numbers...

Pandemic?
This article caught my eye:
easier-to-spread versions of the deadly bird flu created in lab

@Wanooski ..Thanks for taking the time to exquisitely express how I feel. Beautifully written, will copy and paste.

Paul

jlg4880 - we, ourselves, are the pandemic that will take us down.

Wanooski

Well I'm flattered xraymike.

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