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12/14/2011

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AlT

Dave,

Thanks for doing a great job of keeping the stream of relevant information coming.

Very helpful in staying alert and be prepared (at least mentally) to what is coming to all of us and outr children.

-alex

Brian M

Hmmm, the 5 fastest growing job occupations don't require a college degree...

So, why, exactly, would fixing education (especially higher education) help?

Save the money, learn to build things with your hands, fix things, grow things, cook things, or teach people how to do these things.

Not that I'm against fixing education, mind you. I have young kids and would love to think that they are getting an absolutely world class education. I don't think that's the case, so fixing K-12 education seems like a good plan to me. ;-) Fixing higher education is mostly (but certainly not wholly) about fixing the money model used. Now, how you do that within the context of a private education system is something for which I have no answers.

Dave Cohen

@Brian

re: "the 5 fastest growing job occupations don't require a college degree"

Yes, I didn't quite appreciate the irony when I was writing up the post until you just pointed it out.

Thanks.

-- Dave

Shawn

And just to add insult to injury:

These are registered nurses, “home health aides”, customer service representatives, food preparation workers and “personal home care aides”.

Damn. So if you are not into fries or working at a collection agency (customer service) your next best choice is changing the diapers for a cranky 90 year old bitch with dementia?

Of course you might have a roof over your head as a live-in, but probably not what you expected when you got that degree in media studies or sports-marketing and now have a student loan to pay back.

AlT

continuing the education theme picked up by Shawn

indeed the kinds that are going to college should think twice before they take out the student loan

on the other hand they may take it out with full intent not to pay it back :) and nobody will blame them when financial system simply collapses

i think the issue of education is more along the lines of what and how we should teach our children _at home_ , in private

it is all clear that institutionalized education (public or private) will never be able to give the young the tools with wwhich they make sense let along to cope with what is coming upon them in the second half of the 21st and first half of 22nd century

yes teach tehm hands-on survival skills but also tell them that we brouagt them in the world that became much more difficult to live in since the time we joined the party; tell them that if they decide not to have children of their own we will not mind not to have grandchildren and tell them that the faster they learn how thinggs really are the more chances they may have not to die first and maybe even to hbe the ones that be the beginning of the change of _human condition_ not just another generation that jamms even more already crowded planet

Honesty

Perhaps suicide is an option that should be made available to the masses.

DaShui

I noticed that the most in demand jobs are tied to healthcare. And healthcare gets its money from government spending. How long until that dries up?

S P

Jobs? We don't need no stinking jobs!

We have food stamps and section 8 and Pepsi and Cheetos and 500 channels of TV and Netflix and high speed internet.

AlT

@honesty

suicide is always an option that is available to anyone

but our genetic imperative is to go on living and therefore suicide from an evolutionary standpoint is completely useless: all that variation in the brain wiring and protein expression for nothing :)

Honesty

Okay let me be specific, euthanasia should be available to those who decide after much thought (the irony) that variation and expression are not worth the price of life.

I apologize if I'm too morbid for anyone's taste.

Mark

One factor in this may be that people are living longer and older people are working longer. The proportion of individuals who continue to work after age 55 reached a record high recently. Some 40.2 percent of Americans age 55 and older participated in the labor force in 2010, a number that has increased steadily since 1993 when just 29.4 percent of older Americans worked. This accounts for roughly 33M additional workers at a time when the rate of job growth in the past 10 years has slowed significantly.

Moreover, older workers generally have the more senior, better paying jobs making it difficult for the younger generation to advance in their field.

The aging workforce may also has an impact on the cost of a college education. The absence of a mandatory retirement age contributes to "graying" of college professors. Since older workers generally have a higher salary, the cost of college is of course higher.

So the aging workforce may be creating a situation where young people cannot get a good job to pay for the expensive education they received.

My T Day

Jobs and reliance on corporations may be a thing of the past. People need to start their own businesses or cooperative ventures.

sharonsj

So these are the five growing jobs: registered nurses, “home health aides”, customer service representatives, food preparation workers and “personal home care aides”.

But there's a problem: hospitals are going broke and either not hiring nurses or increasing the load of the nurses already there.

I don't know the difference between home aides and personal aides, but did you know that people in these jobs can't afford to do them? In rural areas, aides who have to drive around to different towns are not paid for their mileage. As gasoline costs increase, there are fewer aides--plus all the states are cutting back on money allotted to home care because of the budget crunch. And if a family has to pay for personal care, that only lasts until the money runs out.

Food preparation: I assume this is "Would you like french fries with that?" So this is a minimum wage job or you are a waitress who needs tips to survive. Neither pays enough to live on.

Finally, customer service. You mean there are businesses who didn't outsource to India?

At this point, a workers' collective is the only answer to keeping manufacturing in the U.S.--unless you crazy right-wingers think trying to keep your job is now socialism. And even if it is, who gives a crap; at least you're still earning a salary.

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