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11/23/2011

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russell1200

Another criteria that many American's have a difficult time with is severely overweight poor people. This of course would not apply to the people in the video as I think you most Americans understand, and worry about the transition from wealth to poverty. I myself understand the dynamics, but have a hard time internalizing them.

A criteria that would go in the other direction (being more inclusive) would be address location. People would probably accept someone as poor who had a box window ac unit, and tv, but could not afford to move out of the "projects". In fact I would say that safety of living location is probably near the top of many peoples list of criteria.

But anyone who has ever been "poor" knows that their are a whole lot of factors in the equation. Health issues will get some sympathy. But lifestyle choices certainly play a factor in it as well.

It is not a whole lot of fun scrimping and trying to work your way out of poverty while watching your neighbors live the lower end version of the consumer culture. So it is easy to see why some of the least sympathetic people to the poor are the poor, or near poor themselves. You can see the same dynamics in mortgage forgiveness is not only unpopular with the banks, but also all the people who are current on their mortgage or paid off.

Diogenes

Your newest shout-out to "GET REAL!!" is much appreciated, as usual.

Getting real in its most basic sense means stepping away from the "reality" they pull over our eyes, putting your feet down on the ground, and seeing what they don't want you to see. Real people suffering as it all goes down the tubes. On the economic side it's hunger. On the environmental side it's every kind of awful disease caused by pollution.

On every side it's about our children; they can't let us see them suffer.

From Rockstroh's article today:

"Because these are the waters in which we swim, most will accept societal and cultural circumstances as a given…believing, for example, that when they posit a political utterance that the opinion expressed has been formed exclusively of their own mind, by the exercise of free will."

"Remember this: Most likely, the corporate state has, to some degree, colonized your mind, as it is well on its way to destroying the ecosystem of the entire planet."

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/11/23

For me, the insight contained in his article is crucial to understanding just about everything as we move on "down the funny stairs." (referencing a favorite old book by Richard Farina)

Best,
John

Brett

Though I know that it sucks to be hungry, etc...

And I myself only make 15k a year...

Aren't we now only losing what was stolen? Like that guy who fought in Afghanistan, he gets $1,600 a month in benefits. How much do the people who don't have a home anymore, or food, get in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, etc?

It's all relative, ya, and Dave you don't make much $, and I know a lot of people who don't, my mom has bare concrete for floors in her house and needs my help with bills, yet works 2 jobs.

But empire is what we are, and what makes us tick. In an objective sense it is hard to pity our decline.

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